Having had a day or two to contemplate the game and the changes made to the rules to accommodate the later period I thought I'd write up my thoughts.
Firstly the game was fun, reasonably historical and once I concoct a quick play sheet will play through at a sensible pace. The battle pitting two Prussian corps against one large French one in a decent defensive position ended up with a Prussian victory, they suffered hefty casualties getting there but did the business once they got close enough to use the needle gun effectively.
The Prussian Krupp artillery wasn't as dominant as I thought it would be but I know that I still need to paint up one corps reserve artillery so that might have made a difference.
The French artillery was pretty useless as the Prussians rightly targeted them first and forced them to withdraw while the Chassepot seemed to be as effective as it should have been.
To sum up:
1). The table was rather too small for the number of figures on it so it was a frontal attack with little manoeuvring, though in my defence the object was to play test tactical scenarios and how the mechanics of the rule adjustments work or not.
2). Long range artillery fire was pretty useless which frankly is as it should be and usually is in most rules. Both sides need to be at effective range, I'm trying to decide if there should be a longer short range, canister or more accuracy at that distance, particularly for the Krupp guns (it's 20cm at the moment) don't know, we'll see with that one.
3). The Prussian artillery really could have done with spending more time softening up the French. Now in the later stages of the conflict they did this and it could be represented by giving them a bombardment phase at the very start of a scenario, say five attacks from each 'battery' before the game itself begins? You have to be so careful though as this still has to be an enjoyable game for the French player so maybe on a roll of a dice for each division the Prussian divisional commanded ignores whatever orders he has and attacks the French position regardless of orders (say on a 6). This happened surprisingly often!
4). Small arms fire seemed to be ok though I may try out increasing the cost of reinforcing the Prussian firing line. It costs the supporting unit 1 casualty point to replace a stand in the firing line at the moment, I may increase this to 2 casualty points. This will make the Prussian player think harder if it's worth standing in-front of the French infantry and exchanging fire or whether it's better to just charge in asap before their blown away.
5). An absolute must is to look again at the General de Armee melee charts and incorporate more of them into these rules. Thinking about it the Pickett's Charge rules in that conflict rightly assume that other than troop quality both sides are very similar but I think that in the European continent the subtle differences can be brought out slightly better using the Gen de Armee melee rules, certainly many of them. Fighting in built up areas is a very noticeable one were I think the rules in Gen de Armee favour the defender more and make it more difficult to prise a unit out.
6).The main thing I want to avoid is to stray too far from the basic structure of Dave Brown's set of rules and nor do I want to have reams of pluses and negatives for players to add and subtract during the game, This period is more complex than either of the two yet still retains a flavor of both.
I have to put one picture up so here's some extras I needed to have for these rule changes, oh and a random 28mm coach for the French Revolution:
So more play testing but first I need to compose a workable quick play sheet which I can adjust as I go along. Well, I've got nothing else to do - Not!
Dave.
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I'm Dave and live in Morpeth, Northumberland in the UK.
This may or may not be a regular thing, we'll just have to see how it goes.
I am a painter/collector of figures first and a wargamer second. My thrill in this great hobby of ours is to place that final well researched & painted unit into the cabinet. The actual gaming with the figures is an important but secondary experience, we all like to win, but it isn't the be all and end all of it, being with good friends and having fun is.
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A nice overview of how you thought the game went. In my experience, based upon Bloody Big Battles, the Prussians need to gain fire superiority with their Krupp guns, before heading towards an assault. It can be tough for the French players, but tweaking scenario victory conditions means they can win, even if they lose, if that makes sense. Linked battles really help with this as it stops the Prussian player being to profligate with their troops.
ReplyDeleteGood thinking Steve, there’s still a way to go it’s these but the scenario design makes such a difference.
DeleteCheers for your thoughts.
Dave.
Its never easy tweaking or in your case Dave re-writing a set of rules. The FPW is a difficult one because the Prussian senior officer corps was clearly better at organising their attacks and bringing greater numbers to bear at the right place. The poor French were out ranged as regards the artillery and their super weapon the millatreuse was used totally incorrectly. Still they were the best dressed and looked the part. Best of luck with the project.
ReplyDeleteCheers Robbie, your right about all of that though oddly enough parts of the Prussian high command often overdid itself in terms of bringing greater number to the battle. There were a number of instances when the strategic plan of sweeping around the French and inflicting a decisive victory was screwed up by an over zealous corp commander ignoring specific instructions and marching directly towards the sound of the guns ala Napoleon. Didn't help of course that both sides cavalry scouting was rubbish!
DeleteReally nice game and figures! Are you using a 3cm base frontage?
ReplyDeleteLovelly blog you have
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